tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1862174023932643058.post158282423013887320..comments2023-10-26T08:20:45.326-06:00Comments on Insignificant Wranglings: Harman on Latour, Socrates, and SophistryInsignificant Wranglerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15950540902913057757noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1862174023932643058.post-22152917063984166922010-06-24T12:39:06.642-06:002010-06-24T12:39:06.642-06:00A machine-human! Interesting. Was the encounter ...A machine-human! Interesting. Was the encounter ineffable, as you seem to imply? Sweet!<br /><br />I guess by pointing out that Latour's metaphysics precede his valuation, I just meant that metaphysics seems to me always to be a first philosophy (another effort to understand Levinas, I guess).Caseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03820693522030084335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1862174023932643058.post-10459236298296017332010-06-22T10:50:47.841-06:002010-06-22T10:50:47.841-06:00I'm not quite sure what "his metaphysics ...I'm not quite sure what "his metaphysics precedes his valuation" means. But, as to his shtick, every statement of a metaphysics requires some kind of first principle, right? Grund? Arche? Epiphany? Moment? Experience? Primal? Postulate? <br /><br />To the second question. Its power-grubbing foolery if the rhetor commands the audience or simply panders to them. But, in each case there is simple lateral intent and power. <br /><br />Latour's politics is more complicated than that, particularly because it is dialogic. <br /><br />These days, there's three primary ways of theorizing sophistry (notice I say primary)--all of which in some way oppose both the transcendental epistemology and emphasis on clarity in Plato. <br /><br />First, there's social constructionists who emphasize sophistry as a form of democratic practice. <br /><br />Second, there's social constructionists who emphasize sophistry as a form of agonistic contest [which doesn't necessarily have to be democracy--sophistry dedicates itself to playing the game of the day]<br /><br />Third, there's deconstructionists who emphasize sophistry as a means for exposing the limits of any transcendental or social constructionist agon. <br /><br />The names that come to mind in connection with these three are (respectively): McComiskey, Consigny, and Vitanza/Jarrat/Worsham. Sophist Monster might have some input here. <br /><br />Hey, what do you know. Spell check recognizes deconstructionist. Probably says something about what new limits need to be explored (eh, Casey?).<br /><br />And, real quick, I think I had an experience with the Other today--and it certainly wasn't an other. Its these automated blog comments. They are a bit uncanny to me. I can't quite say why and I'm in the middle of prepping for my summer course--it starts Monday, so I don't think I'll invest too much thought here. But something about the machines replicating an attempt at dialogism in an effort to attract attention stirs me to question what I am, what I do, and how I think about what I am and what I do. To refer back to our earlier discussion today--that's a brush with the Face.Insignificant Wranglerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15950540902913057757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1862174023932643058.post-90015124195073560962010-06-22T10:36:28.444-06:002010-06-22T10:36:28.444-06:00Two things:
First, notice that Latour's whole...Two things:<br /><br />First, notice that Latour's whole schtick is derived from a metaphysical claim about the nature of reality. His metaphysics precedes his valuation, right?<br /><br />Second, a minor point, but, since it calls us back to our favorite location: what <i>is</i> sophistry if it is not power-grubbing foolery? What is it's essence? What is the fruit of the art of sophistry?Caseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03820693522030084335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1862174023932643058.post-2540330436771918212010-06-19T00:25:01.605-06:002010-06-19T00:25:01.605-06:00thanksgüncel blog adminthanks<a href="http://hallederik.org/" rel="nofollow">güncel blog</a> adminAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1862174023932643058.post-47684751682915404582010-06-18T22:40:01.219-06:002010-06-18T22:40:01.219-06:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.bestoffrmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17484435113261857575noreply@blogger.com